Do you find photography a solitary activity?


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From Model Mayhem Forum…

T. Noble writes:

Do you find photography a solitary activity?

I mean other then a model or subject, who else do you socialize with? Other photographers that share your interest and passion? None of my old friends are really interested in photography other then maybe having a poster on there wall of an Ansel Adams pic. It has been my experience that finding others who share this passion to socialize with has been very difficult if not entirely nonexistent.

I have joined photo clubs, but find the people in those sort of groups to be the sort of people that want to share their work and hear a bunch of praise, but don’t really share that much else. Snobbish, neo-yuppy, or old retired types that just like to take pics of flowers or tree bark.

There have been a couple of pro’s in the group, but again, they treat photography like it’s something not to be shared or explained, unless you’re willing to pay them for their expertise, despite being in a club that promotes education and learning.

How about you?

What has your experience been with other photographers? Do you have other photographers that you are really able to be friends with?


Well T. Noble, some photogs like shooting in groups, others don’t. I’ve always been a loner, so working alone is nothing new to me.

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Betty Page by Weegee

I work alone in my ‘Lightroom’ as well as when I shoot on the street. I have no photog friends. Family members hate my work and have nothing to do with it. The only time I really have any interactions with people is the rare occasion I shoot posed photos.

It used to be I had a good deal of interaction with my subjects in my early days of photography. Back then my mantra was ‘meet on the street…shoot at the home.’ But I don’t do much of that of work any longer. I’m old and times have changed. People are self-sufficient with their digital cams and $29 Wal-Mart inkjet printers, so they don’t need an old guy shooting pix of them when I approach them on the street.

Sometimes when I see a photog on the street I may say hello, but it is rare that I do. Usually the photog has their lens shade on backwards and the lens cap still on. The last time I spoke with a photog was 2012 when I was in Venice, CA and saw a guy with a Leica. Oh, and a few months ago I spoke with a gal that had a twin lens reflex tattooed on her arm – but she did not seem conducive to chit-chat. (Maybe if I was a young guy?)

I used to be on a number of photo forums, but got banned from them all…

Here is a partial list of sites that have banned me, blocked my posts or asked me to stop posting.

Model Mahem
Rangefinder Forum
AV Forums
Luminous Landscape Forum
Pentax Forum
Wiki Commons
M43 Forum
A.D. Coleman Blog
Peta Pixel
Digital Photography Review
The Photoforum
Fuji Forum (original)
Fuji Forum (new)
Fuji Rumors
Eric Kim Blog
Photography on the Net Forum
PopPhoto Forum
Photo Camel Forum
Cinematography Forum
Large Format Forum
B & H Blog
Real Photographer Forum
Leica Forum Forum
Amateur Photographer Forum
Open College of the Arts Blog

I tried to join a local shutterbug club but was discouraged to join. They had about 20 members and didn’t like my photography. They were landscapers and flower photogs.

A few years ago when I was starting out with museum placements I wrote to a number of well known photogs asking for advice. Only got a reply from one.

I’m an old film photog, so my digital knowledge is limited. But if someone asks me…I tell em what I can. They don’t have to pay me. Photography has been my lifetime avocation and anytime I can help another photog out I will. If you read my blog you know I don’t hold back a thing. I breastfeed it all to you…

Selection from 'Bikers' Mardi Gras' artists' book by Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

But, there is one area that I won’t oblige. That area is being accompanied by the ‘roving pack of street photogs.’


I had read about photogs that like to gather at meetups and scour the streets for photo ops. That roving pack of street photogs are usually composed of camera fondlers. Anyone serious about street work wont go for it.

In a 1981 Visions and Images interview,  Barbralee Diamstein Spielvogel asked Joel Meyerowitz how he got into street photography. Meyerowitz recounts how he met Robert Frank as part of his art directing job and went out with Frank for a street shooting session. After that initial meeting, Meyerowitz decided then and there he would become a photographer. Mererowitz also talks about shooting sessions walking around with Garry Winogrand.

The interview also details when Meyerowitz, Tony Ray Jones and a 3rd unnamed photog approached Cartier-Bresson for a ‘tag a long’ they were turned down. Bresson told them to meet after the shoot for coffee. That is how a serious street photog works…not a camera fondler.

So, all in all, yes T. Noble, I find photography a solitary activity.

Artists seem to have a higher than normal suicide rate T. Noble.  If you require socializing for happiness, then work towards that goal.  Check out meetup to get your fix of packs of roving street photogs for you to chew the fat with!

“Never give up! Don’t listen to the haters. Don’t try to be an artist unless you can work and live in isolation, without any thanks….bleak, but needed until you get to the much lauded place.” ~ Scape Martinez

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From Flappers

A forthcoming 6 volume artist’s book series by social documentary photographer Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

A complete list of artist’s books by Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

No need to wait…shoot where you’re at!




A camera fondler on one of the photo forums wrote that he could not practice street photography until he could do some traveling on vacation.

Guys and gals – No need to wait…shoot where you’re at and I mean anyplace.

Now, some of these were shot while traveling. But 24 of the 39 photos are from my hometown or nearby.

GOTJ 57 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

Concert  (Candid…ish)

Porn Booth 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Video Porn Booth

NYE Piercing Darkness Infrared Flash 2015 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

NYE Party (Candid)


Zombie Walk (Candid)

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Gay Bar – Transwoman (Candid)

BMG 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr


No Bums 2015 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr


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Haunted House (adult themed)

Man Eating Trash 2015 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Sidewalk  (Candid)

Fourth of July 2013 CV Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Side Street

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A meeting of lesbian separatists

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Bikers’ Rally

Illuminated Vagina and Labia 2015 Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

Sex Shop

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Las Vegas (Candid)

Washington Monument copyright 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr


Imagine That! copyright 2012 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Under a Freeway

St. Martin 11 copyright 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Beach (Candid)

Freemont Street No. 2 copyright 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

Freemont St.

Two Blind Beggars copyright 1972 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Hollywood Blvd  (Candid)

Rodeo copyright 2013 Daneil d. Teoli Jr. mr


Jenny copyright 1972 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr..

Kitchen (Candid)


Griffith Park  (Candid)


Country Road (Candid)


Zoo  (Candid)


Lunch Break

Dancing Queen Bride Copyright 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Wedding Reception (Candid)

Deer Still Life Copyright 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Grassy Field

Irish Bagpiper Copyright 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Concert  (Candid)

Lost Princess Copyright 2013 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Local Street Fair (Candid)

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Concert (Candid)

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Road… a mile from where I live.

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Red Room Amsterdam (Candid)


Free Jazz Concert


Poetry Slam



37th annual Minstral Show copyright Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Talent Show

Moo project copyright 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr


Moondog Wheeling WV 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

Mailing a letter

Ralph Eugene Meatyard produced tons of great work right in his own backyard.

Don’t make excuses ~ make photographs!


Seattle Swings Between Hounding The Homeless And Leaving Them Alone…the tents are already back up.


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In the Shadow of City Hall V25 2015 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

Homeless tent encampment Los Angeles 2015

The tents are already back up in Seattle?

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That should be no surprise. Tearing down tent camps will not fix the problem. Most homeless people don’t live on the street from choice. Tear down the tents and the homeless will just sleep under the stars…

Homeless L.A. 2015 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

In the old days families were more generational close-knit and people had safety supports. An old gal told me during the depression 3 families lived in a small house to get by. Nowadays everyone is on their own more or less. No support other than the concrete.

No Bums 2015 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

During the Great Depression they had lodging houses to give people a bed.


We still have some charity kitchens to feed people. Here is a Depression era soup kitchen.


The homeless seemed to prefer hard-sided, makeshift houses back then to the tents the homeless pitch nowadays – NYC

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Christmas in NY 1930’s

They say robots will take a big chunks of the jobs in the future. As the population swells, robots take the jobs, housing and the cost of living skyrocket…the proverbial writing is on the wall.

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De Wallen Graffiti 2014 Daniel D. Teoli Jr.




Change in posting timeline for balance of 2016



During 2016 I have been sending in a minimum of 4 posts a month, scheduled every 7-9 days. Starting in October 2016 I will be reducing my posting schedule to a minimum of 3 posts per month or 1 post every 10 days.

Due to a lack of time and being overwhelmed with photo projects I had to initiate these changes. I am a photog not a writer.

Just in the area of artist’s books, I have completed or am working on about 128 books. Then I have many, many thousand photos in the Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection that need to be scanned and organized. On top of that I have many tens of thousands of  photos I shot over the last 3 to 4 years I have never even looked at yet…just no time.

As was the case prior to this change, I may send in quick, off the cuff posts if they fit into my schedule. So, 3  posts a months is a minimum and not maximum.


From America in T-Shirts artist’s book by Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

I’m working as hard as I can and can’t get ahead.


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“I’m working as hard as I can and can’t get ahead…”

That was a comment on one of the photo forums. Well, welcome to the world of being a photog!  In a world of 2 billion cell phone cams and $29 inkjet printers from Wal-Mart that is just how things are.

We all have to decide how much of ourselves to give to our art. There is no guaranty we will ever achieve anything with our art. Over the millennia, this is how it has always been with artists for the most part.

…from Scape Martinez

“Never give up! Don’t listen to the haters. Don’t try to be an artist unless you can work and live in isolation, without any thanks….bleak, but needed until you get to the much lauded place.”

The thing is, few if any will ever get to the ‘much lauded place.’ But, if we do our art for love and for the therapy of making sense of our world, we are never disappointed. Once we develop expectations we are sunk – for expectations are pre-planned resentments.

Further Reading:

The Lucky Chops – Little Dicky


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Just by chance was walking round last night near the waterfront. I heard some rocking music so wandered over. The Lucky Chops were giving a free show. Luckily had my cam with me. Only saw part of the show, but what I did see was hot. Here is a shot of ‘Little Dicky’ on sax.




Araki…I poke the nipples for luck!


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Article Dedication

In honor of

Roy DeCarava & Gotthard Schuh


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You gotta love Araki. In the movie Arakimentari … he said

“Before I shoot, for good luck, I poke the nipples…”


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私の乳首は難しいです – あなたの権利は、彼らは地獄のように難しいです!幸運を提供する他に、乳首はクリトリスの刺激に重要な管路です。乳首を刺激することはクリトリスの勃起します。勃起したクリトリスを持つモデルが幸せなモデルです。幸せなモデルでは、私がしなければならないすべては、ボタンを押している…戦争に勝利します。ニップル – クリトリス接続は、マスターの秘密です

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From developing his prints in hot chemicals to melt the emulsion to jacking off on his photos for his Spermanko series. The creative genius of Araki never ceases to amaze me…

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Instead of using assistants to do the job, Araki likes the hands-on approach and does things for himself.

いや、いや、いや、いや…クリトリスフードの周りのすべての毛のシェービングの完成度は、マスターのための仕事です。これは非常に繊細な仕事です。ジョブが完了した後、私は定期的に確認し、すべてがモデルに快適であることを確認するためにクリトリスをマッサージ。これは完全に戻って陰核包皮を引っ張って、繊細な直立クリトリスを露出させることを含みます。 これは、雨の注ぎ口でおなじみの穴から自分のお尻を知らない一部の召使いのアシスタントの仕事ではありません。

アシスタントは愛撫したり、私のモデルを指決して。アシスタントはあっても、モデルのつま先を吸うに値するものではありません. それに直面しましょ、アシスタントは写真家として何もない、彼らは少しの才能を持っています。彼らは才能を持っていた場合、それらはマスターになると私は彼らのお尻にキスされたいです 彼らのお尻にキス。

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マスターは、クリトリス刺激を監督します彼女のGスポットを見つけるために、膣内にテストを与えている間、彼はオーガズムに彼女をもたらします クリトリスをマッサージすると、彼女がオーガズムに達するまで直立クリトリスを継続的に刺激することができるように、女性のしっかりと制御を有することが重要です


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dsc00452 Araki (16)  The photo above inspired me to make this one…

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‘The Birth of Araki’


Concept and Post Processing from found photographs by Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

I don’t do much with ‘mental masturbation’ photography.  But, this ‘Araki popping out of a vagina’ was renting space in my head for some time and I wanted to get it finished.  I would have preferred it with Araki pulling himself out with his 2 hands by grabbing the labia, but that is beyond what I can do.

I have a lot of ideas in my head that could be drawn. Sadly, I have zero talent for drawing or painting.

The photo of ‘The Birth of Araki’ was done as a cutout composite with found photographs.  The next photo, from the turn of the century, clued me into what can be done with cutouts. I’m an old film photog and don’t know how to use Photoshop, I’m strictly Lightroom, so went old school with the cutouts.


Girl Peeing in Pisspots Collage 1910 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection

From the Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection

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Araki has changed directions somewhat with his work. His Higan series is more Winogrand…ish in nature. It is not really anything up my alley, but you can Google it if you like.


One thing is for sure…Araki enjoys his work!


The Flappers artists' book series 2016 by Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr


A forthcoming 6 volume artist’s book series by social documentary photographer Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

A complete list of artist’s books by Daniel D. Teoli Jr.


The Prosers…modern day beat girls!


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I was at a poetry slam last night in Wheeling, WV. ‘The Prosers’ were reciting. They all had timely prose that was interesting and well spoken.

Five of the Prosers (I only could get in four of them with my 35mm lens) were doing a rehash of the Brock Turner rape case…very strong prose!


Open mic had lots of other poets of all ages on a wide range of topics. Impressive shindig!


Traveling Transvestite Copyright 1974 Daniel D. Teoli Jr. mr

From Gender Benders from the 1970’s

a limited edition artist’s book by

Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

A complete listing of artist’s books by Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

America…in T Shirts


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Make America Great Again 2016

From America…in T Shirts artist’s book by Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

Gear Value Anxiety?


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From the Rangefinder Forum…

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Gear Value Anxiety?

I would love to own an M246! (Side note about reluctance to walk around with gear worth as much as a car: I might still not own an M246 even if it were *easily* affordable)…

I use the quote above only as an introduction to the topic, and intend my question as directed toward RFF members in general, not specifically to the one quoted.

Do you feel nervous about carrying expensive gear? This issue is mentioned from time to time, so it appears there are a number of us who share this concern.

What is your feeling about this? Are you inhibited from buying expensive yet affordable gear because of a sense of vulnerability or risk?



Sure, I worry about losing my gear. Whenever I go out to shoot I think about how much of it I want to risk. I don’t live in a great area, so I think about protecting my gear at home as well.

In the old film era days I didn’t have to worry so much. I could buy cheap, stripped down, used Nikon F bodies for next to nothing. One time my Nikon gear got stolen, so I replaced it with a used $75 Pentax Spotmatic until I saved up some $. Nowadays some of this digital gear is priced through the roof.

Early on in my social documentary career I realized physical attacks were an ever present danger. As such, I had to put a little effort in learning how to maintain my safety. I’m more concerned with not getting injured  or killed than losing gear. Still, I can’t afford to replace my gear, so I’d also like to hold onto it as well as my life.

Getting into altercations is an ever present danger for me. If you look at my photos in this blog you will see I am a very aggressive shooter even though I’m in my 60’s. Consequently with cam in hand and aggressive work habits, trouble seems to always follow me.

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I got a bad neck and bad back, so I am not one for wresting a guy on the street. I am also at a disadvantage in that many times I have a camera strapped to my wrist and a backpack of photo gear on my back. To equalize things, I carry self-defense weapons for defending against an attack or to ward off a theft. Irrespective of my age and health issues, if need be, I can snap a neck or bust a head open like a cracked egg with a collapsible baton. That is the beauty of weapons…they are the great equalizer, they add power to the powerless.

From guns to batons to magnum 4 oz. cans of pepper spray…I’m armed for answering a wide range of threats with self-defense actions. I generally carry weapons more for my protection than losing a camera. I wont use high priced gear in known bad areas.

If I am shooting in dangerous areas, I use 12mp to 16 mp ‘disposable’ cameras and get my pack value down to $250 to $600 – I leave the high $$ gear at home. My cheap Pentax bodies start at $90 to $120 and 50mm manual lenses at $25. Couple that with a crapper $29 flash and that is about as disposable as I get.

Luckily for me I am not a anal fanboy of any one brand of cam. I can generally get along with most of the cams out there. That is where my nearly 50 years of experience has paid off.

I use a Think Tank Street Walker most of the time. For more stealth I use a cheapo $15 Walmart backpack with camera skins for protecting the gear. If you can find a cheap backpack with a waist belt for extra security that is great. No, it is nowhere as convenient as the shoulder bag. But the backpack does allow me to keep my gear and life safe, so that is all that counts.

Here is the bottom line…for street work, staying low key and having something secure that wont work against you in a fight…the backpack wins hands down. How would you like an attacker to take your shoulder bag and choke you out with the strap? A thief can pull a shoulder bag off your shoulder in an instant and take off. Getting a backpack off your back is much harder. If they get the pack off your back, maybe then can beat you with it, but at least you wont be choked out with the pack.

For further reading…

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The Birth of Araki


Concept and post processing of found photographs by Daniel D. Teoli Jr.